Weed Out the Lazy

Jason76

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No, I don't mean with pot, har har. How about that some conservatives claim college students are lazy - and they should be prevented from coming to begin with? Well, there are SAT scores, but that doesn't seem to do much. Seems like the UK system is much tougher - but that could be changing.
 

Azareal

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Well, always the problem with that stuff - it only applies to "people of economically advanced nations". That's not fair. That's true with the other social programs also.
Well, there is a reason that countries are pushing for universal basic income.

Poverty, political instability, high unemployment, etc.

These are all big problems for many, many countries and they have failed royally at actually tackling them. This is partially because political parties don't actually care about solving problems, they prefer to go through the motions of "quick fixes" to gather a bunch of votes in an election.

The less problems there are, the less vague promises you can make about what you're planning to improve upon in the next election.
You could also argue that it is a problem with society as a whole though, as people in general don't think in the long term and are always preoccupied with what is right in-front of them.

It's also why cheap fix arguments like "video games cause violence" proliferate, as regulating video games is an immediate action which someone can press for, unlike improving the quality of education across a country or addressing the fact that even a mentally unstable person can buy firearms.

In a democracy, if people don't vote for a party, then it doesn't win.
 
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Jason76

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Well, there is a reason that countries are pushing for universal basic income.
It's mostly about family breakdown - not these other factors, though, of course, they do exist. I mean, discrimination against blacks was once a huge thing in the US - and in the present day - South Korean schools (among others in Asia) won't hire blacks to be English teachers - even if they're qualified.
 

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Well, there is a reason that countries are pushing for universal basic income.
It's mostly about family breakdown - not these other factors, though, of course, they do exist. I mean, discrimination against blacks was once a huge thing in the US - and in the present day - South Korean schools (among others in Asia) won't hire blacks to be English teachers - even if they're qualified.
Then let those south koreans be what they want to do. If SJWism is forced on them. Isn't that the same as discrimination from the other side of the fence? If SJWs don't want to be discriminated, how about people who are on other side of the fence who don't want to engage get their own space?
 

Princess MeowsePad

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Well, there is a reason that countries are pushing for universal basic income.
It's mostly about family breakdown - not these other factors, though, of course, they do exist. I mean, discrimination against blacks was once a huge thing in the US - and in the present day - South Korean schools (among others in Asia) won't hire blacks to be English teachers - even if they're qualified.
How did we go from talking about universal basic income to talking about family breakdown to talking about discrimination against black people in eastern Asia?

If SJWism is forced on them. Isn't that the same as discrimination from the other side of the fence?
Believing that people should be given a fair chance to get a job regardless of race makes you an SJW now? Damn.
 
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Believing that people should be given a fair chance to get a job regardless of race makes you an SJW now? Damn.
Yes damn. Because people of the land should always come first as far as the resources are concerned. No ifs and buts. It's what it is as far as the survival is concerned. If you don't agree with this, let me invade your bank account if you are so desperate to be a liberal.
 

Princess MeowsePad

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Believing that people should be given a fair chance to get a job regardless of race makes you an SJW now? Damn.
Yes damn. Because people of the land should always come first as far as the resources are concerned. No ifs and buts. It's what it is as far as the survival is concerned. If you don't agree with this, let me invade your bank account if you are so desperate to be a liberal.
I wish I could afford to help you out, but I'm a bit financially embarrassed myself at the moment. Anyway, how does believing that everyone deserves to have a fair chance to get a job somehow go along with wanting to let you help yourself to my bank account (which is empty anyway)?
 

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I wish I could afford to help you out, but I'm a bit financially embarrassed myself at the moment. Anyway, how does believing that everyone deserves to have a fair chance to get a job somehow go along with wanting to let you help yourself to my bank account (which is empty anyway)?
You financially in trouble, what that has to do with me? you're liberal you have to shell out what you can no? isn't that how social justice works in EU? you have to open up doors even if you cant for the sake of "equality", "justice", "diversity"? no?
 

Princess MeowsePad

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I don't think you have a very good understanding of the EU countries. Most of them have neoliberal economic systems that are nearly as unregulated as the U.S. Also, the universal basic income is not just a liberal idea; it is championed by people both on the left and the right. Some on the right see it as a viable alternative to a large system of social services.
 

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I don't think you have a very good understanding of the EU countries. Most of them have neoliberal economic systems that are nearly as unregulated as the U.S. Also, the universal basic income is not just a liberal idea; it is championed by people both on the left and the right. Some on the right see it as a viable alternative to a large system of social services.
I am pretty much aware of the EU countries as much as I am required for this thread. Venezuela and China and even broken Russia speaks a lot about socialist schemes going wrong. And poster girl Norway being shown as success of UBI does not work for all countries. Greed, crime and laziness isn't linear in every country that UBI may ever be championed.